Republican Debate California (9-7-11)


One year and two months before the 2012 election, Republicans gathered to attack President Obama again in yet another debate.

FOREIGN POLICY: Huntsman said bring the troops home so we can do nation-building here. Perry complimented Obama for keeping Guantanamo open and executing Bin Laden. Bachmann felt it was wrong for Obama to tell Israel to return to the 1967 borders. She opposed the Libyan operation, saying no American interest was involved, and we did not know the rebels. She wanted to disarm a potential Iranian nuclear threat. Santorum opposed isolationism and wants the U.S. to become a force for good.

JOBS: Although Republicans usually say the private sector and not the government creates them, Perry took credit for 1 million new ones in Texas. Romney also claimed he made new jobs, by understanding how the economy works in the private sector.

IMMIGRATION: Perry said the El Paso border was unsafe and federal border security support was needed. Romney wanted no amnesty, a fence, agents to secure it, and an elimination of the magnet caused by employers who hire illegal aliens. Gingrich wanted everyone, including Americans, to learn English and U.S. History. Bachmann said immigration worked through the 1950s, before the rules changed. Cain wants the federal immigration issue to be given to the states. Huntsman said two of his seven children were from India and China, and he saw the issue through their eyes. He wants legal immigration fixed. Paul said states should not be forced to provide benefits for illegal aliens.

BUDGET & FEDERAL RESERVE: Perry wants a Balanced Budget Amendment, saying the Keynesian approach is dead.  Romney said the Fed pumped too much money into the economy. Gingrich would fire Fed chair tomorrow and audit the agency.

TAXES: Cain came up with a wild proposal to increase sales taxes to 9%, even though it’s regressive and disproportionate as to the poor. He was questioned about a corporation that earned 14 billion, but paid no taxes. Hunstman would make no tax pledge Romney said all should pay taxes and wanted dividends tax free.

RETIREMENT: Romney said we must save Social Security, not abolish it. Perry said it was a Ponzi Scheme, wrong from the very beginning, and it needed change. It’s a lie, he said, to tell young people they will receive benefits some day. Cain wanted to set up private accounts with personal names on them.

HEALTH CARE: Romney said those without insurance simply went to emergency rooms, forcing taxpayers to pay. He promised waivers from the new law to states who wanted them. Perry was asked why 25% in Texas had no health insurance and ranked dead last. People don’t want mandates, he said, as he suggested Medicare block grants for the states. Bachmann claimed “Obamacare” regulations (which haven’t taken effect yet), are “killing jobs.” She said the law took over one-sixth of the economy and hard work is needed to repeal it. Cain said insurance mandates are unconstitutional. Gingrinch said they all want to repeal the law. Huntsman, out in front of the curve, asked how they would solve the issue once the existing law was repealed.

ENERGY POLICY: Romney suggested developing oil, gas and nuclear power. Huntsman said gas prices are determined in the market and government cannot dictate them. The true cost of gas, he said, includes government spending to keep the Persian Gulf sea lanes open. Bachmann said a gallon of gas was $1.79 when Obama took office and we needed energy jobs in America. She was asked to explain her suggestion to drill in the Everglades. Gingrich would drill in Alaska. Perry thought climate change was not science.

FEMA: Paul said it didn’t exist before 1979. He would let private airlines take over the TSA.

EDUCATION: Gingrich would give Pell Grants to kindergarten through 12th grade. Huntsman said Republicans cannot be anti-science. On poverty, Santorum said he reduced it through welfare reform, and wanted to eliminate the dependency culture.

DEATH PENALTY: Perry received great applause from the partisan audience as he said Americans support capital punishment, and he slept well after executing more prisoners than any other state.

As to their fitness to serve, Huntsman, a former governor and ambassador, said he served 4 presidents: Reagan, Bush I, Bush II and Obama, and only he would be able to attract independents.

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